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Most pro-captivity call the Keiko effort a failure but his death must have been the long term consequences of living in the conditions and water he was living in... nothing to do with him being in the ¨scary ocean¨.Fezzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569174497602365315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7098726787821515040.post-30112572505970415012013-11-13T09:34:35.503-08:002013-11-13T09:34:35.503-08:00I think everyone would like all Cetaceans and not ...I think everyone would like all Cetaceans and not just the Orcas retired to sea pens and those that are fit to be released, or that can be rehabilitated for release get released. I would be very happy to see the cetaceans I know be able to 'retire' and never perform another silly non educational show and be able to live out the remainder of their lives in relative peace with those that cannot be released being taken care of by those they know and love them.<br /><br />The problem I see to that end is moving them. 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But I am more concerned about the state of mental and physical health of the Orca themselves, rather than safe working conditions for trainers, of which the trainers have a choice to be there or not.Sure I want the trainers safe, but most I want NO trainers and want the Orca released, into sea pens and rehabilitated for release to the ocean. If SeaWorld shows this little respect for its employees then imagine how they treat their animals. It appears Orca are stressed, food deprived, over worked, underfed, forced to beach themselves for extended periods of time. raped, kidnapped from their mothers, bred too young, not protected from attacks by other Orca, not cared for properly, and kept in inadequate pools and more. No SeaWorld employee should ever get in the water with the Orca ever again and the Orca should be retired from it forced slavery by Seaworld. No less would be acceptable. Please advocate for these animals. 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This perfection comes at a price.<br /><br />Making the animals perform to their maximum limit every show is extremely stressful and frustrating for any performing animal, especially marine mammals. Making an animal jump 15 feet into the air when the same jump at 10 feet is just as spectacular and the public doesn’t know the difference. The shows and the training system at Sea World are very strictly controlled, extremely regimented and very demanding. Former trainers and other employees have described working at Sea World as almost being in the military where every minute of everyday is tightly controlled and totally scripted. Former trainers also described a training system that will tolerate nothing less than perfection. Animals that do not measure up during shows are worked between shows until they get it right. Sea World performers can be compared to Olympic athletes that must perform to their maximum each time they are called upon. This constant performing at the very physical limits of any animal exacts a heavy toll both physically and mentally. The amount of energy expended to lift an 8000 pound animal 15 feet out of the water instead of just 10 feet is probably close to 50 percent higher for the animal. And the public wouldn’t notice the difference! If the trainers at Sea World had to do the tricks instead of making the animals do the tricks, and they are tricks not behaviors, the shows would be a lot different. Usually only the trainers know when something doesn’t go just right during the show the public usually doesn’t have a clue unless it’s something very very serious. The shows are all written, choreographed and scripted by management, with only the final product in mind. The trainers just make it happen!<br /><br />Lolita, the killer whale at the Miami Seaquarium does one of the most pathetic shows I have ever seen. 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